Saturday, October 6, 2012

Retro, Vintage, Antique..

Month number 7, Task 2

U poslednje vreme svaki dan u nekom kontekstu čujem "Ja volim vintage.. To je tako retro.. Retro je u modi a.k.a. retro, sestro"... Slušam, klimam glavom. U nekom trenutku kažem "i ja", jer sam razumela šta je vintage, a šta je retro. Posle čujem te iste reči u drugom kontekstu, i zapitam se da li ja stvarno razumem te pojmove. I da li ih većina ljudi razume? Ili ih samo koriste u svom rečniku, da bi bili IN?

U svakom slučaju, odlučujem da pročešljam po Internetu i dođem do nekih zaključaka. Za vas koji želite da ovo pročitate do kraja i saznate ili proverite da li sam dobro razumela, evo šta zaključih:

Antique - je sve što se odnosi na period pre 1920. godine. U široj definiciji, to je sve što je više od 100 godina staro, što mu dođe skoro na isto. Inače bih volela da živim u tom periodu, ali jedino kad bih imala vremensku mašinu. Ta moda i dizajn nisu nešto što bih u bilo kojoj sferi danas iskoristila.

Vintage - je ono što se odnosi na period od 1920. do 1960. godine. Ovo je Wiki definicija, koje je po meni stroga, pa se odlučih za definiciju koja u vintage uključuje i sedamdesete i osamdesete.Vintage je trenutno najpopularniji termin u modi i tu se ovaj termin pre svega odnosi na second hand odevne predmete, ali i na nove koji su sa etiketom opstali još iz onog vremena (deadstock ili NOS-new old stock). I pošto svako i dalje dodaje svoje značenje ovom pojmu, vintage može biti i nešto industrijski ili handmade proizvedeno u našem dobu, ali po uzoru na gore spomenute dekade.

Retro - je neka moda, stil, trend koji su popularni danas, a odnose se na stil koji je bio popularan pre npr. 15-20 godina.

Ukratko, po meni:

Antique - je nešto jaaaako staro, i ne baš primenljivo (osim za maštanje o životu u to vreme).
Vintage - je nešto baš reprezentativno za određeno doba u prošlosti, privlačno i primenljivo u sadašnjosti.
Retro - je nešto iz prošlosti u kojoj smo i živeli, i za koju nas vežu nostalgija i sentimentalnost.

Šta vi mislite?

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Lately, every day I can hear "I love vintage... It`s si retro... Retro is always IN.. etc". I listen, nod my head. Sometimes I say "me too", because I understood what vintage is, and what retro is. Afterwards, I hear it in some other context, and I wonder "do I really understand these terms?". And do most of the people understand them? Or are they just using them, so that they could be IN?

Anyway, my exploring mind immediately led me to search the Web and I came to some conclusions. For those of you who will read this to find out or to check me, this is what I have found out:

Antique - everything that relates to the period before 1920s. In wider definiton, antique is everything 100 and more years old. I would like to live in that era, if only I had a time machine. However, that fashion and design are not something I would use in today`s time.

Vintage - relates to period between 1920s and 1960s. This is Wiki definiton, strict in my opinion, so I decided to take the definition that inlcudes the 70s and the 80s also. Vintage is very popular in fashion at the moment and there it relates to everything that is second hand, but also to new items with labels (from deadstock or NOS - new old stock). And since everybody is adding something to this term, vintage can relate to something  manufactured and handmade in our time, but inspired by above mentioned decades.

Retro - is fashion, style, trend which is popular today, but relates to the style that was popular eg. 15-20 years ago.

In short, for me:

Antique - is something very, very old, and not usable in today`s time (except for dreaming about life in that time).
Vintage - is something really representative for a certain decade in past, very attractive and usable in the present.
Retro - is something from the past in which we have lived, and for which we are nostalgic and sentimental.

What do you think?


Pa kada sam sad sve to razdvojila, povezala, definisala, evo šta je meni retro i vintage....

Oličenje vintage pojma mi je Dita von Teese:

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So now, when I have separated, joined, defined everything, here`s what`s vintage and retro for me...

Representation of vintage for me is definitely Dita von Teese:





Vintage su pin-up devojke (za više videti ovde):  ////////////  Vintage are pin-up girls (for more see here):



Vintage je diiivan blog A beautfiul mess. ////////////// Vintage is a wonderful blog A beautiful mess.

Vintage je i ovo: //////////////// Vintage is this:






Retro je ovo: ////////////// Retro is this:









I na kraju malo da se nasmejete.. Za looooše vintage oblačenje pogledajte ovde, a za najgore vintage omote albuma ovde i ovde.
I na kraju jedan vintage spot. Uživajte u vikendu!

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And at the end here`s something for a little weekend laugh. For baaaaad vintage clothing click here.
And for the worst vintage album covers click here and here.

And at the end one vintage video. Enjoy your weekend!

 



20 comments:

  1. jep, tako si i ja tumačim ova tri pojma :) retro ftw!! :D

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  2. The other day, on T.V., a journalist was asking the difference between antique, vintage and retro to an upcoming fashion designer but he was not able to give a correct answer :))
    Anyway, I love Dita Von Teese, she is such a fun,fearless woman and carries her unique style wherever she goes. I just adore her. I love the fact that she wears red/scarlet on her lips almost always.
    I love vintage fabric and prints the most, maybe retro a little bit but antique much less:))
    Thank you for sharing these wonderful photographs,
    Have a lovely day

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  3. E, sad mi se ide na najlon pijacu da prebiram i praktično primenim antique- vintage-retro znanje:)

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  4. i found u thru the naptime review mom's monday mingle and now follow.
    thanks!

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  5. I suppose the definitions of Vintage and Retro (through you definitions) is determined by how old you are. Say, if Retro is a time when you have lived - then Retro to me includes 60's through 90's - but for my daughter - it would only include the 80's and 90's. But, on the plus side - I LOVE your pictures!!

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    1. Great point of view. Thanks!

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    2. I agree.
      Retro bi trebalo da bude skraćeno od retrospektivno, retrospekcija između ostalog znači i "podsjetiti se, prisjetiti se", a ja ne mogu da se prisjetim mode sedamdesetih, to je sigurno. :)

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  6. This is such a good question. When I go to Craigslist to look at items to purchase, I notice that people use the term vintage or antique so inappropriately that I have this strong urge to email them and correct them. It, at times, can be quite frustrating.

    Your definitions seem pretty accurate to me. I do feel that vintage does not have to be something from or inspired by a time during which you yourself has lived, but I would probably say more like within the past 50 years or so. Retro would be something from a time during which you yourself has lived, or up to 30 years old or so.

    When I'm looking for something vintage though, I am looking for something that is in good enough condition and quality that it is still usable, but is actually something that was also used during the time period that it represents. New items that are inspired by a particular era are still new, and possibly made from materials that may not have been available during that time, which makes them new yet inspired by "insert the decade here". Those items, in my view, are not worth what someone directly from that time period are. I can't stand when someone thinks that they can mark up the price of a new item that is just inspired by an era.

    Visiting from the Thirsty for Comments Thursday hop. Thanks so much for stopping by. Please link up again!

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    1. Thanks for sharing yoour opinion. Appreciate it!

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  7. Nisam se nikada pitala oko vintage i retro, ali vidim da ih dobro razlikujem.
    Nekako sam vise za vintage.Ali 90'te oborucke prihvatam u nekim fazama, ali najvise strane izvodjace, jer su kod nas 90'te mnogo tuzne.Tako da imam i retro inspiracije.
    Trudim se da zivim tj. prostor u kojem zivim je skoro sve vintage cak i namestaj, jer volim sve sto nasledim, a obicno je sve od mojih.Mama je ljubitelj i vaza, servisa, goblena, slika, tako da mi nije nesto tesko da zivim u takvom ambijentu, koji vec skoro imam.
    Ali da, ne mogu u potpunosti da zivim tako, jer tu su kao prvo i nove tehnologije.Tako da od svega pronalazim sta mi se svidja i prisvajam po svom ukusu.

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  8. Nice to catch up with you again via the hop.

    I was born in the wrong era, I love all things vintage, retro, antique and just plain old.

    Good blog topic!

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    1. Yes, I see your style as totally vintage, even antique ;)

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  9. Slazem se i mogu ti rec da mi je taj vintage pomalo dosadan sad kad ga svi furaju.. vise i nije tako vintage kad je 90% cura na ulici u necemu sto je "vintage"..

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    1. Hehehehe,da, Onda mu to predje u IN, a ne vintage ili retro :)

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  10. Great pictures, love the retro...

    Thanks for linking up to our wwHop9 at www.CraftySpices.com
    Happy Wednesday

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  11. Dobra tema, nisam se usuđivala da koristim taj izraz, baš zato što mi njegovo značenje nije bilo najjasnije! I zaista - 'vintage' postade IN, mada većini koja fura ovaj fazon nije jasno šta znači ovaj pojam, al' IN je IN! :)

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  12. Checking out your page from the harvest of friends weekend blog hop love many of the pics you posted. I have an eclectic list of likes.

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